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New mod help! Bar end mirrors, spools, bar end cap, and so on.

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#1 ·
Hi all!

This is my first bike and have some questions.

I’m trying to take off the bar end cap on my grips but I can’t figure out what size hex key it is. I tried 4, 4.5, and 5 and they all don’t fit. I don’t know what else I can try.

I bought so Mo.view moto gadget bar end mirrors, can I just slide them over the bar end cap and screw it on. It’s just really tight and I don’t want to damage anything.

I have some Vortex Swing arm spools and have no idea how to attach them. What was your solution?
 
#2 ·
Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new to you XSR700. It’s really helpful if you put your location in your profile, avatar text or sig line along with the model year of your XSR. It adds context to your posts and helps others give you better answers and resources. There are two generations of XSRs, with Gen II starting with model year 2022. The bikes share a lot of common parts, but there are sub models and areas like electrical, headlights and exhaust that differ quite a bit.

It’s super helpful and avoids errors if you give us a link to the parts you bought when asking questions. Most manufacturers have info on their own websites too, and a chat or email for questions.

On the bar ends, if they have never been off before, they will be very tight. You’re looking at the wrong feature, the little hole in the center is not where the wrench goes, it’s the larger hex opening, which is 8mm. The smaller one might fit a torx bit, but it would just snap the bit or wrench off if you tried to remove the bar end with that small of a tool. If I recall, I used a M8 socket bit and my 18” breaker bar when I removed those. An 8mm allen wrench may work, or you may need to use a box wrench or pipe on the end as a cheater extension. If you don’t know the box wrench trick, ask and I’ll post a picture.

Don’t attempt to slide the Moto Gadget bar end mirror clamps over the bar end. They are designed to clamp on the handlebar itself. From their desciption:
Note: These mirrors are designed to clamp onto the end of a 7/8" or 1" handlebar. Please check your bars to see if your controls can be moved inward by about 12mm (0.5"). Alternatively, Motogadget mo.View Bar End Mirror Adapters (sold separately) enables fitment without needing to move handlebar controls inward or shorten grips.

If you’re not prepared to shorten your grips or move your controls in, (which required drilling a new hole so the locating tab has somewhere to go), consider that the mirror adapters most likely won’t fit the XSR due to the threads in the bars for the OEM bar ends. Those threads don’t come out easily and most people change to a different handlebar if they wan’t a hollow end for accessories.

Vortex swing arm spools. Wow, now you’re causing problems! Did you also buy a swing arm spool wheel stand? If not, why the spools? Image below from the Vortex website, (you really need to read this stuff before you order parts, and never, ever listen to anyone riding a sport bike). The XSR700 doesn’t have spool mount locations. You need a special mounting bracket made just for the XSR700 to use spools. However, you can just buy a rear wheel stand that has pads to lift under the swing arm instead of using spools.

Click on the link if you have a hard time reading the black text. Not sure why it showed up black, it’s white on the Vortex website.

https://www.vortexracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Spool-Instructions-700x525.png
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You don’t listen to sport bike guys for a few reasons. You don’t own a sport bike and most of the things they want don’t apply to the XSR, and because sport bike guys are dorks that are only waiting for open road to go fast. Sport bikes are awesome on the track, but suck for street riding. They think 100 miles is a painfully long ride. 100 miles is halfway to breakfast for anyone else. ;)

Keep asking questions. Take a motorcycle safety class or three. They really help your skill progression and often you get a discount on your insurance too.
 
#3 ·
Hi @EricV thank you so much for the lengthy reply and information, seriously.

So how would you suggest that I fit those mirrors on the bike? You would happen to know the thread pitch on the handle bar? I can’t really find any information about that.

Would something like this work? I already have the stand and really don’t want to spend more money on another stand.

Lastly, what’s the box wrench trick?

Thank you!
 
#4 ·
Thanks for adding your location to your profile. (y) Yes, the padded lifters work great. That’s the style I use on my rear wheel stand.

The thread pitch on the handle bar is M16x1.5mm.

For mounting the mirrors, these might work, but it looks like the mounting area is wider than your Motogadget mirror mounting width. You might have a small gap between the grip end and mirror. At least the throttle wouldn’t bind! Inexpensive to try. LINK. Part of that fits inside the handlebar. You can see the step mark. The first smooth part after the threads fits into the bars.

Alternative method would be removing the bar ends and trimming the grip on the left enough to install the mirror. On the throttle side you would have to trim the grip and the plastic throttle tube to expose bare handlebar enough to mount the right side mirror, and avoid binding of the throttle tube. You would re-install the bar ends after fitting the mirrors, but this process would allow you to do so w/o moving the controls inwards and drilling new locating holes.

Caution, some people break off the locating tabs on the controls and end up with the controls moving around. They are never fully secure after that even tightening the screws as tight as you can, they will still rotate. That can be dangerous in traffic when you need the controls to be where you can instantly engage them.

Using a box end of a combo wrench or double box wrench to gain extra leverage on an allen wrench. You put the box end over the end of the allen wrench, using the angle that gives you the best leverage. It lengthens the moment arm, basically giving you a longer wrench. You can use this technique with a combo wrench as well, hooking the box end of the second wrench over the open end tang of one side of the first wrench. (I put the allen wrench in the vise for this photo since I’m not using the OEM bar ends on my bike.

For reference, I’m a retired machinist. I still have my thread pitch gauges so I actually measured the pitch & diameter since my bar ends are off the bike.
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This style bar end or adapter will never work with the stock Yamaha XSR700 bars. The expansion plug style needs an empty handlebar with no insert.
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There are XSR700 specific spool mount kits. There are also universal ones like the Graves Motorsports unit. Requires drilling the swing arm and installing threaded rivits. Unless you are comfortable doing that yourself, it would be an additional cost to have them installed. Likely cheaper to use the pads on the stand you already have.