Suspension Questions

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Syzygy

Discussion Starter · Nov 27, 2017

Hello XSR fam,

My bike is at the local dealership, assembled and ready for pickup tomorrow!

I've taken care of all of the cosmetic farkles, but need to start thinking seriously about suspension. I'm 90-95 kilos, and am planning to get the Ohlins Cartridge + 9.5 Springs setup for the front.

I'm not as sure about the rear suspension. Both the STX 46 and the S46HR1C1S appear to be good, but I can't figure out why the S46HR1C1S is almost twice the price. Sorry if I missed this (I skimmed suspension threads) but why would I spend the difference?

Thanks!

Syzygy

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nightic

· #2 · Nov 27, 2017

Syzygy said:
Hello XSR fam,

My bike is at the local dealership, assembled and ready for pickup tomorrow!

I've taken care of all of the cosmetic farkles, but need to start thinking seriously about suspension. I'm 90-95 kilos, and am planning to get the Ohlins Cartridge + 9.5 Springs setup for the front.

I'm not as sure about the rear suspension. Both the STX 46 and the S46HR1C1S appear to be good, but I can't figure out why the S46HR1C1S is almost twice the price. Sorry if I missed this (I skimmed suspension threads) but why would I spend the difference?

Thanks!

Syzygy

The STX range is the ecomony ("street performance") line with minimal adjustment (just rebound):

https://www.ohlins.eu/en/products/motorcycle/ya-419--4779/

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Whereas the S46HR1C1S is higher end ("Road and track") and features a remote reservoir as well as adjustable compression damping and easier to operate on the fly hydraulic preload adjuster:

https://www.ohlins.eu/en/products/motorcycle/bm-048--3898/

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I believe the STX product is overpriced for what it is, when you compare it to something like the Nitron R1 which has at least the same functionality and comes custom built for your weight and general usage:

http://www.nitron.co.uk/catalogue_item.php?catID=12992&prodID=76735

(Thery also offer higher end R2 and R3 products)

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Monaz

· #3 · Nov 29, 2017

Hey fellas,

So over the I went to the Sydney Motorcycle show and came across this aussie company:

https://www.ikonsuspension.com.au/product-category/yamaha/

Although I cant seem to find the listing for our bike (or even a listing for the MT-07) the guys at the stand assured me that they have a shock that will fit our bikes. They don't have fork springs at this time but apparently they are in the pipe works. Thought I'd share it as I think the price is pretty reasonable? I have managed to find a couple of reviews on them also, all of which seem to say it's a marked difference over the standard fitment.

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Tracker

· #4 · Nov 29, 2017

Syzygy said:
Hello XSR fam,

My bike is at the local dealership, assembled and ready for pickup tomorrow!

I've taken care of all of the cosmetic farkles, but need to start thinking seriously about suspension. I'm 90-95 kilos, and am planning to get the Ohlins Cartridge + 9.5 Springs setup for the front.

I'm not as sure about the rear suspension. Both the STX 46 and the S46HR1C1S appear to be good, but I can't figure out why the S46HR1C1S is almost twice the price. Sorry if I missed this (I skimmed suspension threads) but why would I spend the difference?

Thanks!

Syzygy

Probably one of the best mods you can make to the XSR imho. But you might find 9.5 spring too heavy for the road, it would be bordering on too heavy for track use. I'm a similar weight to you and finished up at 8.25 (8.00 spring in one leg and 8.5 in the other) with a smaller air gap than recommended. I started at 9.0 and the bike had almost no sag, at 8.25 it's just about perfect.

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Syzygy

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 30, 2017

Tracker said:
Probably one of the best mods you can make to the XSR imho. But you might find 9.5 spring too heavy for the road, it would be bordering on too heavy for track use. I'm a similar weight to you and finished up at 8.25 (8.00 spring in one leg and 8.5 in the other) with a smaller air gap than recommended. I started at 9.0 and the bike had almost no sag, at 8.25 it's just about perfect.

Thanks for the perspective, Tracker!

Peace,
Syzygy

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pencuse

· #6 · Dec 14, 2017

95+ kg rider with stock suspension. Any pre-load on shock recommended? Currently runs at 4th from lowest. Bike feels like cruiser.

PS: I could have iteratively figured out the right height by adjusting/checking/adjust back.. but you know the whether is cold and I'm super lazy...

Cheers.

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pencuse

· #7 · Dec 19, 2017

pencuse said:
95+ kg rider with stock suspension. Any pre-load on shock recommended? Currently runs at 4th from lowest. Bike feels like cruiser.

PS: I could have iteratively figured out the right height by adjusting/checking/adjust back.. but you know the whether is cold and I'm super lazy...

Cheers.

Well, first there was this other topic where all these preload settings discussed. I happened to miss it and by the time I realize I was unable to edit this one.

Anyhow, I dialed in to 8 or 9 and bike got transformed. Totally different bike. It's harsh on the road imperfections but that's something I'd trade with any day with a better corner performance. Besides I'll still make it 1 click softer and see if it would be a better balance.

Cheers again. :nerd:

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