R6 throttle fix

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republicj

Discussion Starter · May 14, 2017

Hi guys,

I know the XSR700 community is pretty quiet so far, but I just wanted to let you know that I've just did the "R6 throttle" mod on the bike, after having seen it in the MT07 / FZ07 threads.

Quick recap, changing the throttle tube to that of the R6 (i think 2006 / 2008 and later) changes the ratio of the spin, which basically means that from zero to WOT (wide open throttle), less wrist twist is needed.

So I went to the local garage, and bought the OEM R6 throttle (it's called a grip assy lolol), and when it arrived, I couldn't fit it because the housing didn't fit. (I'll add pictures tomorrow). So I had to also order the throttle housing, which is the plastic bit that has two screws in it that connects the throttle tube to the handlebars. The housing came and it was full metal, which was nice.

Okay, having done this, the bike is COMPLETELY different.

My current set up has the akra carbon low pipe (no baffles...standard), and I have the power commander installed, with a custom map dyno-tuned.
Having the throttle grip installed here makes the bike so much more responsive and agile. There is no more 'slack' turn that exists before the throttle engages.

It's just immediate power, and on the motorways, I can turn the throttle to its ends without having to reposition my wrist.

I've noticed the front wheel coming up (only very slightly because I'm scared ) on hard accelerations in first or second gear, which puts a smile on my face.

EDIT: I got into a bit of a race off the line with this obnoxious Harley rider, I lost completely because I went full throttle in first gear so my wheel came up about half a metre. I looked like a pure badass (pissed myself), then floored him obvs after 15 meters.

All in all, the entire operation cost me about £40, and I highly recommend it to all owners.
Cheers for reading.

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chop_juice

· #2 · May 14, 2017

lol, great info. Sounds fun

Redrum

· #3 · May 14, 2017

Thx for sharing. Waiting for pix

biffy

· #4 · May 15, 2017

Great story and thanks for the information. Looking forward to seeing some pictures.

republicj

Discussion Starter · #5 · May 15, 2017

So here are the pics, sorry, it's a bit wet today.

The grip is slightly different than OEM, and perhaps once the weather gets nicer, I may switch out the grip.

What is great about this though is that I use CRG bar end mirrors, and the stock grips were giving me a bit of a problem because I needed to lock in the bar end weights but because of the way the mirrors were attached on the bar end itself, I couldn't lock it into place fully, otherwise the throttle would stick and I would likely suffer an untimely demise. (So I've been using some metal washers that were the same size that I scavenged from the local garage)

This grip however must be shorter slightly because now I can lock the bar end in as far as it'll go, and still have a free throttle, to the extent that there is room for the throttle to move left and right slightly.

PS, Ive attached some pics to introduce myself to the commmmmmunity.

Took the pic of the bike during a wash, the bike stripped for the dyno / power commander, the pic of her being dyno'd, and the power commander fitted!

PPS what do y'all think about these brown grips? Just the colour, I have a different texture in mind, but I can't decide if I want to have the green and black or have a hint of green and brown....

cheers!

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TheCrow

· #6 · May 16, 2017

What sort of dyno results did you get back from the dyno day? :O

republicj

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 17, 2017

TheCrow said:
What sort of dyno results did you get back from the dyno day? :O

To be legit with you, I have couple of the graphs but I don't really know what it means, they explained it to me but ehhhhhhhh.

I only know what it FEELS like, it just pulls so much more in every gear, smooth delivery, less jerkiness, and just 'more' at the top end.

On the motorway, I usually top out at 105 mph (i just get scared and bitch out), but after all the mods, I was going 110 and still pulling, but again, was too fast for me.

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MorganX

· #8 · May 17, 2017

Hello... i see you have a black tool bag on the side of the bike. Where did you buy that bag?

republicj

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 17, 2017

MorganX said:
Hello... i see you have a black tool bag on the side of the bike. Where did you buy that bag?

Hey, It's called the Kriega harness pocket

I used to keep my disk lock under the seat but there's no room for it anymore, so I keep it in there, which keeps it tidy. No tools though...

chop_juice

· #10 · May 17, 2017

Hey RJ, youve had me contemplatig the throttle mod since your post. Just need to see if i can unstick the delaer cement heated grips without damaging them.

Any reason for power commander over ecu flash? Did you contemplate an airfilter?

republicj

Discussion Starter · #11 · May 17, 2017

chop_juice said:
Hey RJ, youve had me contemplatig the throttle mod since your post. Just need to see if i can unstick the delaer cement heated grips without damaging them.

Any reason for power commander over ecu flash? Did you contemplate an airfilter?

Hey, thanks for reading. For real, I have had some mods done to this bike, nothing crazy, but a fair bit. I would put the throttle mod on the same level as the exhaust swap, going from the stock with baffles in vs akra pipe with no baffles. that's the level of difference. It's incredible.

I didn't have a ECU tuner near me, so I bit the bullet a bit and went for the PCV. I could've gone for the ECU, since I most likely won't change anything on the bike for a while involving air intake etc. I wanted the DNA filter, but my guys down at HM racing told me that KN filters were better, so I went with that.

As for grips, I think it'll depend on whether the heated elements are on the throttle tube, or if it's on the grip. If it's the latter, then you can swap the sleeve over, as the R6 throttle sleeve will come off as well. But if it's directly on the throttle tube itself, then it requires more skills than I can advise on...

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chop_juice

· #12 · May 17, 2017

republicj said:
chop_juice said:

Hey, thanks for reading. For real, I have had some mods done to this bike, nothing crazy, but a fair bit. I would put the throttle mod on the same level as the exhaust swap, going from the stock with baffles in vs akra pipe with no baffles. that's the level of difference. It's incredible.

I didn't have a ECU tuner near me, so I bit the bullet a bit and went for the PCV. I could've gone for the ECU, since I most likely won't change anything on the bike for a while involving air intake etc. I wanted the DNA filter, but my guys down at HM racing told me that KN filters were better, so I went with that.

As for grips, I think it'll depend on whether the heated elements are on the throttle tube, or if it's on the grip. If it's the latter, then you can swap the sleeve over, as the R6 throttle sleeve will come off as well. But if it's directly on the throttle tube itself, then it requires more skills than I can advise on...

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Cool, definitely not doing much to disuade me. Never got to ride xsr with stock pipe. Have it boxed in the attic. Baffles are still in the akra ti but am thinking drill them out, swap filter/snorkel and tune with the throttle mod.

Heading to dealer tomorrow so will see what they can do. PCV seems a big investment. But I guess a bit like the suspension mod, pricey but no doubt worth it.

Interesting re KnN, was thinking KnN just because but saw this and leaning dna for the snorkel.

https://youtu.be/Hxp2N3tkqTE

As for grips, had a look and think its cemented to throttle tube, see your point re grip may be seperate from heating element. At risk/cost of ruining grips not sure im keen to find out. Will attempt a cautious removal from tube in a week or two.

republicj

Discussion Starter · #13 · May 18, 2017

chop_juice said:
republicj said:

Cool, definitely not doing much to disuade me. Never got to ride xsr with stock pipe. Have it boxed in the attic. Baffles are still in the akra ti but am thinking drill them out, swap filter/snorkel and tune with the throttle mod.

Heading to dealer tomorrow so will see what they can do. PCV seems a big investment. But I guess a bit like the suspension mod, pricey but no doubt worth it.

Interesting re KnN, was thinking KnN just because but saw this and leaning dna for the snorkel.

https://youtu.be/Hxp2N3tkqTE

As for grips, had a look and think its cemented to throttle tube, see your point re grip may be seperate from heating element. At risk/cost of ruining grips not sure im keen to find out. Will attempt a cautious removal from tube in a week or two.

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Funny enough, I watched that same vid before going for the DNA, but the garage literally said KN is cheaper and the discrepancy between DNA and KN is not something I'm going to notice at my riding skill and the kind of bike I ride.

I am also thinking about the suspension upgrade in the not too distant future, but I opted for the PCV literally because it's transferable to the next bike, should that ever become a thing for me. There are all kinds of crazy stuff, like auto tune with a dual channel O2 optimising sensor drilled in the exhaust so it can sort **** out mid ride etc, but that again is beyond my riding level and expectations.

If you have a garage near you that can do the ECU, just buy the filter of your choice, take the baffles out (not sure if that affects airflow), and then get it ECU'd and save some cash

John876

· #14 · May 18, 2017

After reading your thread It got me interested in this mod. I used to have an R6 and did prefer the throttle response. I'm going to give it a go soon and found this thread on an American MT forum for the mod. It gives some good info on how to do it for anyone who isn't very confident in messing with bikes! https://fz07.org/thread/828/installing-r6-throttle-tube

chop_juice

· #15 · May 18, 2017

Interesting, am yet to check out price difference. Did you mod the intake or just remove stock?

Is true, like dna v knN and at this point (1200 miles of experience) am not sure if id note any gain with suspension but still enticing. Spoke to dealer, they want £120 for 2 hours labour to fit PC and dyno tune. They dont do ecu flash. Had thought flash was significantly cheaper and a common thing but a quick google and compared to pc and option to carry pc to next bike perhaps not.

Strange as pretty sure Fathers indian flash was free with service. (I blame him for suggesting a filter mod)

So guess a touch trickier than a £50 filter due to tuning requirements

...should have either gone 900 or best start saving.

...all that said, next step is get that throttle unglued

republicj

Discussion Starter · #16 · May 19, 2017

John876 said:
After reading your thread It got me interested in this mod. I used to have an R6 and did prefer the throttle response. I'm going to give it a go soon and found this thread on an American MT forum for the mod. It gives some good info on how to do it for anyone who isn't very confident in messing with bikes! https://fz07.org/thread/828/installing-r6-throttle-tube

I've done my homework before embarking on this, and I was not able to DIY it because the cable throttle was already at the loosest it would go, aka the nut was already at the loosest end, so that fix did not work for me. Had to go to the garage to get the cables slacked underneath the tank, which is above my paygrade as an amateur tinkerer.

I would recommend against amazon throttles, there seems to be two particular models in question, both with different turning radius... I went on http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/services/online-parts-catalogue-uk/index.aspx via my garage and got the OEM R6 grip ASSSSSSSy (throttle tube), with the metal housing as well.

republicj

Discussion Starter · #17 · May 19, 2017

chop_juice said:
Interesting, am yet to check out price difference. Did you mod the intake or just remove stock?

Is true, like dna v knN and at this point (1200 miles of experience) am not sure if id note any gain with suspension but still enticing. Spoke to dealer, they want £120 for 2 hours labour to fit PC and dyno tune. They dont do ecu flash. Had thought flash was significantly cheaper and a common thing but a quick google and compared to pc and option to carry pc to next bike perhaps not.

Strange as pretty sure Fathers indian flash was free with service. (I blame him for suggesting a filter mod)

So guess a touch trickier than a £50 filter due to tuning requirements ...should have either gone 900 or best start saving.

...all that said, next step is get that throttle unglued

Wow, where do you live? £120 for labour + tune? the PCV set me back about £380, the labour about 80, and the custom map 180... It's definitely worth it though so start PINCHING THOSE PENNIES

chop_juice

· #18 · May 19, 2017

At the moment im in Aberdeen.

Full back story...

http://www.xsr700forums.com/forum#/topics/4618?page=1

Nice one, cheers for posting up prices. Service guy reckoned 2 hours labour parts excluded and i guess tune included. Only option for me or a long drive to edinburgh. That said they confused one guy said 150 per hour and wanted 2 hours/£300 to change handlebars. (Did it myself) But am guessing 60 per hour is actual rate. Listed on website an official dynotune center.

Definitely think i'll start saving. Im reading lots of night and day difference blogs so hopefully something to look forward too late summer

As an aside, do you have a link to the throttle mod parts or known part numbers?

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hotwheels

· #19 · May 20, 2017

@ chop_juice : Your Link goes nowhere

Cool Mod !

We can add the reference parts :
2C0-26240-00-00 : grip assy
3XW-26282-01-00 & 5VY262810000 : throttle housing

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chop_juice

· #20 · May 20, 2017

hotwheels said:
@ chop_juice : Your Link goes nowhere

Cool Mod !

We can add the reference parts :
2C0-26240-00-00 : grip assy
3XW-26282-01-00 & 5VY262810000 : throttle housing

Link still broke? Works for me on ios

Cheers for part #

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