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Hi I've recently began the hunt for some information regarding modification for my 2022 xsr 700, while breaking it in I've looked at a few exhaust and tunes to possibly install. One thing I've noticed that may change this plan is now that the bike is euro 5 compliant it has a catalytic converter on the front. I was wondering if the bike can be modified the same way earlier models could be since now the o2 sensor is directly into the converter. i didn't know if modifying the exhaust or tuning the bike would work differently to models from 2021 and down and if it could damage my motor since the design has changed. Its my first time owning a new motorcycle and I'm trying to be as careful as possible. Any information and tips would be helpful thank you.
 

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My advice would be to tread warily....most manufacturers' websites are not at all clear as to whether their systems fit the Euro 5 bikes (Scorpion says 2016-current, but 'current' seems to end in 2019 !). It's also unclear whether re-maps are needed. If in doubt, I'd suggest you email the system manufacturer - good luck with that one!
For what it's worth, this system from Akra claims to be Euro 5 compliant and allegedly doesn't need a re-map....but it has an eye-watering price tag!
 

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My advice would be to tread warily....most manufacturers' websites are not at all clear as to whether their systems fit the Euro 5 bikes (Scorpion says 2016-current, but 'current' seems to end in 2019 !). It's also unclear whether re-maps are needed. If in doubt, I'd suggest you email the system manufacturer - good luck with that one!
For what it's worth, this system from Akra claims to be Euro 5 compliant and allegedly doesn't need a re-map....but it has an eye-watering price tag!
Thanks for the info, I've seen some of those where they don't need any re mapping or tuning I just didn't know how true that was, I saw a leovince EVO II exhaust on revilla stating it worked with stock fuel as well. Figuring it was designed for the bike the prior rear I figured it would work on the new one since minor changes were made and most were cosmetic. This is the exhaust I saw.
 

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Thanks for the info, I've seen some of those where they don't need any re mapping or tuning I just didn't know how true that was, I saw a leovince EVO II exhaust on revilla stating it worked with stock fuel as well. Figuring it was designed for the bike the prior rear I figured it would work on the new one since minor changes were made and most were cosmetic. This is the exhaust I saw.
I currently run with the LeoVince EVO II exhaust on my 2018 without remapping and it runs well. I later installed a booster plug, with no ill effect on the exhaust.
 

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I currently run with the LeoVince EVO II exhaust on my 2018 without remapping and it runs well. I later installed a booster plug, with no ill effect on the exhaust.
Good to hear, I was also concerned since the o2 sensor goes to the cat in the front of the bike rather than down. Assuming that can be moved and re routed it shouldn't be an issue, but I don't know if the cat is monitored by anything besides the 02 possibly resulting in a check engine light, but I may be over thinking it and should just see how it goes.
 

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Are you just wanting a different look or sound?
Are you just wanting a different look or sound?
Both, I heard about a bunch of people drilling holes in the muffler and a bunch of mixed comments to "its louder with no downsides without needing to spend money" to "your just damaging your bike and giving it adverse effects for a little more sound" so I figured I'd go and get a aftermarket because it looks nice and sounds nice.
 

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I currently run with the LeoVince EVO II exhaust on my 2018 without remapping and it runs well. I later installed a booster plug, with no ill effect on the exhaust.
I currently run with the LeoVince EVO II exhaust on my 2018 without remapping and it runs well. I later installed a booster plug, with no ill effect on the exhaust.
At this point the only issue I'm seeing is if I should wait for leovince to produce a euro 5 exhaust or run with a euro 4 leovince underbody, I'm not concerned with meeting the emissions or sound regulations of euro 5. I just don't know if a euro 5 bike would react well with euro 4 parts. from what I understand the only changes to the bike that I know were cosmetic and the engine still runs the same A/F ratio as prior years but since euro 5 adds misfire detection and 02 sensor monitoring if it were to fail I don't think that would affect anything especially since the leovince works on stock fuel trims
 

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Hi I've recently began the hunt for some information regarding modification for my 2022 xsr 700, while breaking it in I've looked at a few exhaust and tunes to possibly install. One thing I've noticed that may change this plan is now that the bike is euro 5 compliant it has a catalytic converter on the front. I was wondering if the bike can be modified the same way earlier models could be since now the o2 sensor is directly into the converter. i didn't know if modifying the exhaust or tuning the bike would work differently to models from 2021 and down and if it could damage my motor since the design has changed. Its my first time owning a new motorcycle and I'm trying to be as careful as possible. Any information and tips would be helpful thank you.
I'm in the exact same situation. I havn't found anyone who tried to install euro4 exhausts on euro 5 models. For info the XSR 2021 are also euro 5
 

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I'm in the exact same situation. I havn't found anyone who tried to install euro4 exhausts on euro 5 models. For info the XSR 2021 are also euro 5
Yea, its been such a hassle trying to find some information regarding this. I know some of the late model 2021 are euro 5 but when i look around i don't know if anybody has specified if their bike was a modified euro 5 with a 4 exhaust.
 

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The O2 sensor is before the Cat on both Euro4 an Euro5. If compliance isn't an issue, (like in most of the US), I suspect it's not going to matter if you install a Euro4 exhaust on a Euro5 bike.
 

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The O2 sensor is before the Cat on both Euro4 an Euro5. If compliance isn't an issue, (like in most of the US), I suspect it's not going to matter if you install a Euro4 exhaust on a Euro5 bike.
I figured about as much, the euro 4 motor and the 5 run identical I believe. But euro 5 has the cat farther up. So who knows if backpressure has been changed and tuned for the new model years. I'll probably take a stab at a euro 4 exhaust if a new model one is to pricy
 

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Hi I've recently began the hunt for some information regarding modification for my 2022 xsr 700, while breaking it in I've looked at a few exhaust and tunes to possibly install. One thing I've noticed that may change this plan is now that the bike is euro 5 compliant it has a catalytic converter on the front. I was wondering if the bike can be modified the same way earlier models could be since now the o2 sensor is directly into the converter. i didn't know if modifying the exhaust or tuning the bike would work differently to models from 2021 and down and if it could damage my motor since the design has changed. Its my first time owning a new motorcycle and I'm trying to be as careful as possible. Any information and tips would be helpful thank you.
I’m in the same boat my friend. Just bought my 22 and am anxiously trying to decide.
new member, thanks for any advice or tips in advance.
 

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Welcome @J.Alameda - Ride the bike! It will tell you what you want to change. For however you ride it, any changes will become apparent for you. We're all different, but I suggest you simply put some miles on before throwing any parts at the bike. Break it in, have some short and longer rides and see what you want or realize you dislike or miss and want to change/add. There is no wrong, just what works for you.

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Welcome @J.Alameda - Ride the bike! It will tell you what you want to change. For however you ride it, any changes will become apparent for you. We're all different, but I suggest you simply put some miles on before throwing any parts at the bike. Break it in, have some short and longer rides and see what you want or realize you dislike or miss and want to change/add. There is no wrong, just what works for you.

Consider adding your location to your profile or sig line. Location gives context, even within a country. It helps others understand your POV and helps them give you better answers when you have questions.
 

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Hi I've recently began the hunt for some information regarding modification for my 2022 xsr 700, while breaking it in I've looked at a few exhaust and tunes to possibly install. One thing I've noticed that may change this plan is now that the bike is euro 5 compliant it has a catalytic converter on the front. I was wondering if the bike can be modified the same way earlier models could be since now the o2 sensor is directly into the converter. i didn't know if modifying the exhaust or tuning the bike would work differently to models from 2021 and down and if it could damage my motor since the design has changed. Its my first time owning a new motorcycle and I'm trying to be as careful as possible. Any information and tips would be helpful thank you.
Hi.
just wanted to give an update on the exhaust topic on Euro 5 models.
I have now installed a Roadsitalia Special Carbon Exhaust with cat which they have made for Euro 5 and it runs and sounds amazing. I even feel it has given it a few more horsepowers. I havn’t flashed the ecu or installed a PC. I’ve tested it for 100 kilometers today and with the dB killer in it is very smooth. A bit more pops though when enginebraking. I wouldnt like to try without dB killer as it is plenty loud for my taste.
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Hi.
just wanted to give an update on the exhaust topic on Euro 5 models.
I have now installed a Roadsitalia Special Carbon Exhaust with cat which they have made for Euro 5 and it runs and sounds amazing. I even feel it has given it a few more horsepowers. I havn’t flashed the ecu or installed a PC. I’ve tested it for 100 kilometers today and with the dB killer in it is very smooth. A bit more pops though when enginebraking. I wouldnt like to try without dB killer as it is plenty loud for my taste.[..]

Just like to add my doubts that the Roads is any close to EUR5. Removable db killer would be a prove that they are not. The Roads are quite bad in regard to ground clearance in right around curves. An absolute no go.

Interesting to see, that people are still taken away by noise and thinking the exhaust would add some horsepower. The Roads is too straight, too short, no volume, only for noise but nothing for power. All in all, Roads is a super budget exhaust and does what you pay for. Plus the risk that you will be pulled over in most EU countries with the guarantee that your ride is finished in that moment.
 

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Hi mate.
Thanks for your reply. Seems like you have pretty bad experiences with the brand. Can I ask what model you have tried and what your assumptions is based upon? In regards to ground clearance I have no issues at all. Seems better than stock actually. Absolutely love the sound of it. Very deep and rumbling.
I’m not sure with the removable dbkiller and Eu5. Wasn’t that also a requirement for EU4? I received a certificate for the EU5 requirements together with the exhaust in terms of homologation both sound and catalyst type and approval number
Just like to add my doubts that the Roads is any close to EUR5. Removable db killer would be a prove that they are not. The Roads are quite bad in regard to ground clearance in right around curves. An absolute no go.

Interesting to see, that people are still taken away by noise and thinking the exhaust would add some horsepower. The Roads is too straight, too short, no volume, only for noise but nothing for power. All in all, Roads is a super budget exhaust and does what you pay for. Plus the risk that you will be pulled over in most EU countries with the guarantee that your ride is finished in that moment.
 
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