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dimmes
hi,
I have mounted the new led indicators and are spectacular! Homologated and high visibility

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chop_juice
Very nice!! Coincidently same as on mine :) They're super bright. Couldnt be happier with them.
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Love how low key and hidden those are. If you really aren't paying attention, you wouldn't notice them until you turn em' on. The less intrusive I can make anything, the happier I am.
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Cool stuff, would you mind sharing the link?
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dimmes
Madjack said:
Cool stuff, would you mind sharing the link?
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https://motogadget.com/shop/en/m-blaze-pin.html
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Daniel
Hi!

I had a question about these. Don't the indicator lights have to be a certain distance apart? Because of the shorter base aren't they too close together? I realise this might be different per country..
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Daniel said:
Hi!

I had a question about these. Don't the indicator lights have to be a certain distance apart? Because of the shorter base aren't they too close together? I realise this might be different per country..
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There may be a separation requirement but information on exact distance requirement is not readily available.

The blaze pin is eu/ce marked and they are super bright with 360 visibility so imo much better (and safer) than stock.

Very unlikely a cop would pull you for it. Would love to see a cop pull out the handbook and tape measure ;)

Spacing on mine is 27cm front and 19cm rear (with evotech tip tidy).

Found this on another forum...

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(ii)Minimum separation distance between indicators on opposite sides of a vehicle– .
(A)A motor vehicle (other than a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination or an invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 8 mph) first used on or after 1st April 1986, a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985, a horse-drawn vehicle, a pedstrian-controlled vehicle and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand: .
500 mm or, if the overall width of the vehicle is less than 1400 mm, 400 mm
(B)A solo motor bicycle having an engine exceeding 50 cc and first used on or after 1st April 1986– .
(1)Front indicators: .
300 mm
(2)Rear indicators: .
240 mm

Taken from the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989. As far as I know, if its fitted come MOT time is has to be fitted correctly. If there not there come MOTal you'll get is an advisory.​

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The other point from other forums is that a lot of bikes have integrated rear light/indicator clusters.
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Daniel
Amazing! Thanks for the help. I have an evotech tail tidy as well, so that was why I was wondering, since those connection points fall under the fender. But from what I've read I believe the official spacing is 18cm in the rear and 26cm in the front. Would make sense that the'd keep those spacings in mind in the design.

The last thing I'm on the fence about is the look of this modification. The original indicators (for all their bulky uglyness) give the bike a certain width, if you know what I mean? I'm still wandering if these make the bike too sleak.

Still, great mod though.
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chop_juice
Interesting point re the sleekness. For me im much happier with the hidden narrow look. The majority of cafe racer pics imo all look best without indicators/mirrors and license plates. Obv not practical for the road but the pins are next best thing.

I wasnt sure about them before ordering but once on the bike i was really happy especially considering they're such good value.

Pics of them on xsr's on the forum. Should be enough to make a judgement.
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Gentlemen, I have just purchased some led indicators but they will not function. They work fine off the battery but not when wired up. I have just got a couple of in line resistors to wire up in line which I hope solves this issue. Anyone else had any issues when fitting led indicators?
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dapsxsr700 said:
Gentlemen, I have just purchased some led indicators but they will not function. They work fine off the battery but not when wired up. I have just got a couple of in line resistors to wire up in line which I hope solves this issue. Anyone else had any issues when fitting led indicators?
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Have you tried wiring them up without the resistors in place? If so do they work? If they are working off the bike I'm leaning towards the resistors having too much of a resistance?

When I replaced my indicators to LED and what I would recommend, I swapped out the flasher relay. It cost a total of $6 AUD and has worked flawlessly. Just jump on Ebay and do a quick search for one. :wink2:
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If they don't blink at all you may have wired them with wrong polarity, if they blink too fast, a 1€ relay from China will fix that.

Some indicators may come with in built resistors sized for 21W relays. The xsr comes with a 10W relay. That could be a source of problems as well.

Luis

dapsxsr700 said:
Gentlemen, I have just purchased some led indicators but they will not function. They work fine off the battery but not when wired up. I have just got a couple of in line resistors to wire up in line which I hope solves this issue. Anyone else had any issues when fitting led indicators?
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I'm very close to clicking 'buy' on this tiny indicators (https://motogadget.com/shop/en/m-blaze-pin.html) however......

Chop_Juice said.... 'I was really happy especially considering they're such good value'....

Following that link they are 39 Euro EACH - not for a pair - EACH. With postage, a set of 4 costs 172 Euro, £152.

Considering you can buy 4 mini indicators on amazon for less than £40 with free postage - do people think this tiny indicators are worth it?

I must say that I think they look great, but I'm buying lots of stuff for the bike - I don't know whether I can justify the expense.

Can anyone recommend any other small, discrete indicators?
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dimmes said:
hi,
I have mounted the new led indicators and are spectacular! Homologated and high visibility
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Hey - how did you mount these in the stock indicator locations? The M blaze pins have M8 thread size and the bolts around the indicators all look to be M6 size ... same with the rear indicators ... I also have the Evotech tail tidy. Are those brackets you’ve used on the rear something you bought ?
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Gsmit207 said:
I'm very close to clicking 'buy' on this tiny indicators (https://motogadget.com/shop/en/m-blaze-pin.html) however......

Chop_Juice said.... 'I was really happy especially considering they're such good value'....

Following that link they are 39 Euro EACH - not for a pair - EACH. With postage, a set of 4 costs 172 Euro, £152.

Considering you can buy 4 mini indicators on amazon for less than £40 with free postage - do people think this tiny indicators are worth it?

I must say that I think they look great, but I'm buying lots of stuff for the bike - I don't know whether I can justify the expense.

Can anyone recommend any other small, discrete indicators?
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Hey, am aware there is a cheaper knock off version of the pins. Understand from a forum post they are good. Worth a look on ebay.

Re the motogadget pins, worth the money! And compared to rizoma options much cheaper. Soo bright, definitely feel safer with them!! You'll need a indicator blanking panel to fit them.
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Considering you can buy 4 mini indicators on amazon for less than £40 with free postage - do people think this tiny indicators are worth it?
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I can't speak to the quality of any knock offs, but I can confirm that the Blaze's are excellent. I also wept at the price as I was planning on just picking up some ebay specials for less then $30AUD for the lot.

The amount of light these put out is ridiculous and the quality is excellent. They are solid little things, and do not feel like they have skimped on materials etc.

I looked at them as an investment. They are a safety item at the end of the day and you want them to do their job. They look awesome, and if I ever sold the bike, I would take them off and install them on the new bike. The look is so good they should work on anything.
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AGGS said:
The amount of light these put out is ridiculous and the quality is excellent. They are solid little things, and do not feel like they have skimped on materials etc
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How are they for being a distraction for the rider? Ordinary indicators only point away from the rider, these I've read have 360 degrees visibility.
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nikj123 said:
Hey - how did you mount these in the stock indicator locations? The M blaze pins have M8 thread size and the bolts around the indicators all look to be M6 size ... same with the rear indicators ... I also have the Evotech tail tidy. Are those brackets you’ve used on the rear something you bought ?
Cheers
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i used yamaha adaptor..

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+1 AGGS

Not distracting at all, reasuring to glance down and see are on (or forgot to switch off) and can be seen by others at multiple angles. They have lenses so pirmarily point forward.
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John A said:
How are they for being a distraction for the rider? Ordinary indicators only point away from the rider, these I've read have 360 degrees visibility.
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As Chop_Juice said, not distracting at all. The indicators are actually directional.

In the "forward" direction, you get 100% output and they are insanely bright. From other angles though, you probably get around 50% light, which is very easy to look at, but assuming you use the stock mounting locations you actually need to start leaning forward/backwards, left and right to spot them because they are so small.

It is worth noting that it is important to install these facing the correct way as you want to make sure others on the road get the full brightness to make it super easy to spot you.
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