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Hard to move bike with engine off, 1st gear engaged and clutch lever fully pressed

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... as says in the title. Is this normal behaviour? I suspect my clutch cable needs tightening up, but just checking if someone has the same problem.

Gear changes are smooth and with 1st gear engaged and the clutch depressed the bike does not move.

Luis
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Gear changes are smooth and with 1st gear engaged and the clutch depressed the bike does not move.
Mine does the exact same thing, always assumed it was normal.
If you want to move the bike with the engine off, you need to engage neutral.

Actually, now that I think about it, when I start the engine I always tend to engane Neutral first, because if the engine is in gear, even with the clutch fully depressed, the bike will jerk a bit.
Right, it doesn't seem to do it as much if the engine is running (1st gear engaged, clutch fully open). I've adjusted the clutch lever up to the point where it was grabbing only on full release but still it did the same.

Luis.
Luis, I will do a comparative test under both conditions tomorrow to see if there is any difference in force required.
However, when I did a quick test today with engine running, 1st gear engaged and clutch fully in, movement was not noticeably any different to how I usually perceive it when moving the bike in neutral.

(Little note, worth mentioning, in case it's responsible for any difference, but the bike just had it's first oil change on Friday.)
Just tested this.

With the engine off, there is indeed a difference in the force required to move the bike in 1st gear (with Clutch pulled in) compared to the bike being in Neutral.

(My first comment mistakenly assumed an Engine running scenario.)
I think you might find that it is simply the clutch plates 'sticking' together after a ride. As you can all imagine they get incredibly hot and if you turn the bike off and leave it in gear they heat weld together slightly. Therefore when you come along and and pull the clutch in releasing the pressure plate, the clutch plates don't separate until a little force is applied ie either rocking the bike forward or backwards, or if it's running the torque of engine does it.

Try leaving your in neutral after a ride and you will see what I mean.
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I think you might find that it is simply the clutch plates 'sticking' together after a ride. As you can all imagine they get incredibly hot and if you turn the bike off and leave it in gear they heat weld together slightly. Therefore when you come along and and pull the clutch in releasing the pressure plate, the clutch plates don't separate until a little force is applied ie either rocking the bike forward or backwards, or if it's running the torque of engine does it.

Try leaving your in neutral after a ride and you will see what I mean.
That makes a lot of sense, it also explains the jerk I feel when I turn the engine on with 1st gear engaged.
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