Found the perfect LED bulb

20028 Views 20 Replies 10 Participants Last post by elBento, Apr 8, 2021

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · Jul 26, 2017

12

On my third try, I finally found a led bulb that seems to tick all the requirements, that is, better light, correct low/high beam spread, and doesn't require any modification.

The first one I tried: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XKVL4K5 the spring to hold the light in place wouldn't clear the heat sink. Returned.

The second one: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XKT5Q2N the spring locked ok but the rubber boot that prevents water and condensation to get into the headlamp couldn't be installed. The light spread was unsatisfactory and there was no big difference between low and high beam.

My last one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/iSi...D-160W-16000LM-H1-H4-H7-9005/32791513036.html locked ok, the rubber boot installs no problem and the light spread seems pretty good to me. It's a bit tight, you may need to juggle cables to fit the headlamp back together.

My only concern is heat dissipation. I'll post if any problem comes up.

Installed:

Took pictures at same camera aperture and speed and measured the % of pixels > 230 avg RGB (255 is pure white). Results below.

Low beam Halogen (130% philips xtreme vision)
13.5 % of pixels > 230

Low Beam LED
17.5% of pixels > 230

High Beam Halogen
13.1% pixels > 230

High Beam Led
16.3% of pixels > 230

Luis

See less See more

Reactions: 2

1 - 20 of 21 Posts

TheCrow

· #2 · Jul 27, 2017

Apparently they're 50% off right now so that's also a great buy for the price. With the fan on the back, all should be well with heat dissipation but I'm not too sure if these ones are waterproof like the others are though?

bbninja

· #3 · Jul 28, 2017

@racingkoala Thank you for the information, as I am in the search also. Please come back with a report of how it performed after use!

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 28, 2017

TheCrow said:
Apparently they're 50% off right now so that's also a great buy for the price. With the fan on the back, all should be well with heat dissipation but I'm not too sure if these ones are waterproof like the others are though?

You need the H4/ high/low beam variety, I paid 36.09€ for two. They maybe a bit cheaper now. But yes it's a great price and the quality seems much better than the ones I bought from amazon. The H4 adapter is all metal while the others were plastic. And apparently these use Philips latest generation LEDs. The only downside is the shipping time.

Once installed the housing is as waterproof as before. There is no fan at the back. Just a passive dissipator. The other two I tried, one had a fan, the other copper strips that you could spread out. Both seemed a better solution. But actually the thing that got hot was the ballast/driver, not so much the heatsink. I'll post if it melts

.

Luis

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 28, 2017

TheCrow said:
... but I'm not too sure if these ones are waterproof like the others are though?

They're rated IP65, which basically means: Totally protected against dust ingress. Protected against low pressure water jets from any direction. Limited ingress permitted. (https://www.mpl.ch/info/IPratings.html )

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 14, 2017

Update. .. so far so good. The headlight bucket doesn't get warm to the touch, even in 38C like we had a cups of days ago.

Jack

· #7 · Aug 14, 2017

And what is the advantage on this over the stock light?

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #8 · Aug 14, 2017

Jack said:
And what is the advantage on this over the stock light?

Brighter light. See above.

nightic

· #9 · Sep 23, 2017

I've just ordered one of these too and was wondering where you mounted the ballast?
Also, I see you kept the stock lower bulb in place - is it disconnected?
Finally, I see the seller didn't specify RHD/LHD - are you finding the light spread quite symetrical, vertically, or is one side cut-off slighly (i.e. the left, on a RHD-specific item)?

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #10 · Sep 23, 2017

The ballast fits snugly in the headlamp bucket... you may need to juggle cables and connectors around. The bulb does not replace the parking light.

As for the LHD/RHD issue, I'll have to switch to speculative mode... I suspect that in general bulbs are not handed. That's a function of the reflector. Anyway this bulb and the halogen bulb that it replaced are totally symmetrical as far as I can tell. The LED bulb can be rotated, there is a small screw that keeps it in place that can be loosened to adjust. In fact mine is a bit higher on the oncoming traffic side and I may need to nudge it a bit. The headlight itself can be adjusted horizontally and vertically using the two screws on the underside of the bucket. So, between these 3 adjustments you should be able to get the pattern you want.

Make sure the bulb is properly oriented... the two little tabs that partially cover the low beam leds have to be facing upwards, so the actual lowbeam leds end up above the tabs... this maybe counter intuitive, but when you consider that the reflector inverts the beam direction it all makes sense.

If anyone knows better about this LHD/RHD issue, please chime in.

Luis

See less See more

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #11 · Oct 13, 2017

nightic said:
I've just ordered one of these too and was wondering where you mounted the ballast?
Also, I see you kept the stock lower bulb in place - is it disconnected?
Finally, I see the seller didn't specify RHD/LHD - are you finding the light spread quite symetrical, vertically, or is one side cut-off slighly (i.e. the left, on a RHD-specific item)?

Picture of the reflector. As you can see it's not symmetrical. I suspect the ones in RHD ( or is it WHD?

) countries would be a mirror image.

Luis

See less See more

mattswan2512

· #12 · Oct 14, 2017

Blubs not normaly handed, thats the job of the reflector

nightic

· #13 · Oct 31, 2017 (Edited)

Got to back up what Luis said - the iSincer H4 HB/LB bulb does the job very nicely indeed.
No modification is needed at all, the ballast is a good size and neither it nor the bulb noticeably warm the bucket (it's a bit of squeeze to get everything in there though, especially if also using adapter cables having fitted after-market indicators).
The light produced is also a nice neutral White (listed as 6000k and looks about right as doesn't verge into Blue territory).
Very reasonable pricing too, considering the Philips item it's 'inspired by' costs about 5 times as much!

Just also paired it with a Philips X-treme Ultinon W5W T10 6000k LED to replace the parking light bulb and it works wonderfully so far.
The light colour matches that of the main bulb, it's significantly brighter than the stock unit and it's much more aesthetically pleasing.

(As an aside, both the iSincer and Philips bulbs only come as part of 2 packs, so I will probably be selling the spare one of each as a kit shortly, in case anyone wants to go down this route too.)

See less See more

Reactions: 1

racingkoala

Discussion Starter · #14 · Nov 1, 2017

Good it has worked for you. As I got now the Kellermann daylight running indicators, I've just disconnected the parking bulb and used the cable to feed the indicators. But that's also a great solution.

I wouldn't sell the spares. You're not going to get any significant money for that, and if something goes wrong, you'll always have a backup

.

Luis

bbninja

· #15 · Nov 1, 2017

nightic said:
Got to back up what Luis said - the iSincer H4 HB/LB bulb does the job very nicely indeed.
No modification is needed at all, the ballast is a good size and neither it nor the bulb noticeably warm the bucket (it's a bit of squeeze to get everything in there though, especially if also using adapter cables having fitted after-market indicators).
The light produced is also a nice neutral White (listed as 6000k and looks about right as doesn't verge into Blue territory).
Very reasonable pricing too, considering the Philips item it's 'inspired by' costs about 5 times as much!

Just also paired it with a Philips X-treme Ultinon W5W T10 6000k LED to replace the parking light bulb and it works wonderfully so far.
The light colour matches that of the main bulb, it's significantly brighter than the stock unit and it's much more aesthetically pleasing.

(As an aside, both the iSincer and Philips bulbs only come as part of 2 packs, so I will probably be selling the spare one of each as a kit shortly, in case anyone wants to go down this route too.)

When you have the time please share some photos

nightic

· #16 · Nov 1, 2017

racingkoala said:
I wouldn't sell the spares. You're not going to get any significant money for that, and if something goes wrong, you'll always have a backup .

You're probably right but I still have the original bulbs and figure by the time anything goes wrong with these, the technology may have moved on a bit, giving me a ready excuse to upgrade

nightic

· #17 · Nov 1, 2017

5

bbninja said:
When you have the time please share some photos

Not sure how useful these are, as daylight shots so not illustrative of the increase in performance over stock (Luis did a much more thorough job there).
However, this is more to show what they look like when fitted and to get an idea of the colour of light produced.

See less See more

Reactions: 1

denniswkok

· #18 · Jul 18, 2018 (Edited)

Hi guys...

Maybe a little of topic. but well this combination fit in our stock housing

Here -> Headlight link to Aliexpress

Anyone maybe any experiance.

Hope to hear

Cheers
Dennis

See less See more

stef

· #19 · Sep 14, 2020

A video analyzing all alternatives to stock bulb by Ryan F9 from Fortnine. This guys rocks!

Reactions: 1

Pedro Gonzaga

· #20 · Nov 2, 2020

3

Hey everyone,
Having an issue installing a Ledperf LED Bulb on my 2020 xsr700.

Installation pretty straight forward, all connected but no high or low beam. Is there something that i´m "missing" on this issue?

Here are some picks.
Thanks in advance
Pedro

See less See more

1 - 20 of 21 Posts

This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.