Best Rumbly Bang For Buck?

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Bigsteviet

Discussion Starter · Mar 21, 2018

Hi,

Picked up my new (to me) XSR7 yesterday and I don't believe I have EVER heard a bike that NEEDS a zorst this much!!!!!

I honestly thought the thing had stalled at lights it was SO quiet...

So, a pipe has jumped up my priority list pretty pronto.

I'm after that low-down V-twin rumble rather than a thin/harsh sound with revs.

I've listened to a TON of YouTube vids to get an idea how they sound and *think* I've narrowed it down to the Mivv Ghibli low - looks ace - or maaaaybe the Scorpion Serket, but not so keen on the looks. (I like the retro thang.) The SC Project looks great, but sounds a bit scratchy on YT - or am I wrong? (I want presence, not offensive decibels.)

The one bit of info that's proved hard to find is how they affect BHP/torque. I've searched on here, but wondered if anyone has opinions/facts on low baritone sound and power.

And before anyone suggests it, I'd love to but I can't afford Akkers - looking up to £400-ish.

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hotwheels

· #2 · Mar 22, 2018

Or modify the oem Exhaust

About 50 € a used Exhaust.
A 40 mm pipe.
And see my post : http://www.xsr700forums.com/forum/633-exhaust-discussion/7729-oem-xsr-700-exhaust-mod.html

Enjoy

nightic

· #3 · Mar 22, 2018 (Edited)

Bigsteviet said:
Hi,

Picked up my new (to me) XSR7 yesterday and I don't believe I have EVER heard a bike that NEEDS a zorst this much!!!!!

I honestly thought the thing had stalled at lights it was SO quiet...

So, a pipe has jumped up my priority list pretty pronto.

I'm after that low-down V-twin rumble rather than a thin/harsh sound with revs.

I've listened to a TON of YouTube vids to get an idea how they sound and *think* I've narrowed it down to the Mivv Ghibli low - looks ace - or maaaaybe the Scorpion Serket, but not so keen on the looks. (I like the retro thang.) The SC Project looks great, but sounds a bit scratchy on YT - or am I wrong? (I want presence, not offensive decibels.)

The one bit of info that's proved hard to find is how they affect BHP/torque. I've searched on here, but wondered if anyone has opinions/facts on low baritone sound and power.

And before anyone suggests it, I'd love to but I can't afford Akkers - looking up to £400-ish.

I can speak from experience here, having owned the Scorpion Serket and (currently) the SC Project Conic.

The Scorpion (with both baffles in) sounds 'better' (deeper, fuller) than the SC and with the end baffle out is way boomier (to the extent you can 'feel' it rather than just hear it).
The Serket (in S/S) also looks fantastic on and really does suit the XSR700.

However, it's not without some (small) issues (imperfect fitment of the downpipes to the mid-/central-pipe).

Nevertheless, I probably would have kept it had a good deal on the SC Project Conic Ceramic Black not come up.
(I had wanted an all Black unit but Scorpion advised against Ceramic-coating theirs due to it's low-slung position.)

HTH.

Leo

· #4 · Mar 23, 2018 (Edited)

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hotwheels said:
Or modify the oem Exhaust
About 50 € a used Exhaust.
A 40 mm pipe.
...
Enjoy

That's exactly what I did :wink2:
Thanks to user hotwheels for development!! It sounds really very good >

I watched his video several times on my mobile phone and laptop and wasn't convinced.
But my Denon THX-System finally made me smile :grin2:

So I bought a new OEM exhaust for 80,-€ and a 42,5mm stainless steel pipe for 3,11€.
I can confirm that it sounds deep and very good!

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Bigsteviet

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 23, 2018

Ah, Denon makes everything sound great

(That's my Atmos amp)

I can't deny the OEM mod has to be best bang for buck!

TBH, I also fancy changing the looks with a new zorst. And I'm a ham-fisted trog.

nightic - thanks for the comments. Serket is on the shortlist; just not sure I want to be dragging pipe.

Looks like the Mivv Ghibli is more out of the way - anybody got/seen one to confirm?

nightic

· #6 · Mar 23, 2018

Take a look too at the TEC unit (https://shop.tecbikeparts.com/products/yamaha-mt07-exhaust), that mattswan2512 fitted and wrote about here:

http://www.xsr700forums.com/forum/633-exhaust-discussion/7010-tec-exhaust.html

hotwheels

· #7 · Mar 23, 2018

Leo said:
That's exactly what I did :wink2:
Thanks to user hotwheels for development!! It sounds really very good >
I watched his video several times on my mobile phone and laptop and wasn't convinced.
But my Denon THX-System finally made me smile :grin2:

So I bought a new OEM exhaust for 80,-€ and a 42,5mm stainless steel pipe for 3,11€.
I can confirm that it sounds deep and very good!

You're welcome Leo

@Bigsteviet
I made that cheap mod because I was not convinced about the sound + design of the aftermarket exhausts

Except with the Akrapovic double muffler.
But too expensive for only the design

The oem exhaust is simply perfect with the machine.

Leo

· #8 · Mar 23, 2018

@hotwheels
Have you ever meassured the sound emissions?
In Germany there is a tolerance of +5 db. So up to 94 db everything is fine.
I'm not really shure if it would pass a test...

nightic

· #9 · Mar 24, 2018

hotwheels said:
I made that cheap mod because I was not convinced about the sound + design of the aftermarket exhausts
Except with the Akrapovic double muffler.
But too expensive for only the design
The oem exhaust is simply perfect with the machine.

I would agree, that from photos alone, the stock exhaust works really well, aesthetically, with the XSR700 - better than most of the after-market models.

However, in person, it's a completely different story. The OEM unit looks pretty lame (cheap and generic) up against the SC Project Conic, for example, and a bit of an after-thought.

It's also rather roughly made (although fortunately the ugly welds are mostly hidden), in comparison, while also weighing waaay (3-4Kg) more.

That's just my opinion though, speaking as someone who thinks that the compatible Akra models don't suit the bike much either, apart from the lesser-seen underslung (slightly Slug-like) MT-07 (non-Carbon cap) one.

GuySal

· #10 · Mar 24, 2018

If you're not too bothered about 'name' you could check out Black Widow

I had an underslung version and it's bloody loud without the baffle and about ok with it fitted (I'm a more 'no baffle ' sort of rider tho!)

Quality is very good and they now do several versions

Customer service is excellent- the original can bracket was a bit OTT, but then they sent me the much better hidden version free of charge .....

Just YouTube black widow for an idea

I've no regrets and wouldn't change it - and the full system was about 300.....

tombas101

· #11 · Mar 26, 2018

Bigsteviet said:
Hi,

Picked up my new (to me) XSR7 yesterday and I don't believe I have EVER heard a bike that NEEDS a zorst this much!!!!!

I honestly thought the thing had stalled at lights it was SO quiet...

So, a pipe has jumped up my priority list pretty pronto.

I'm after that low-down V-twin rumble rather than a thin/harsh sound with revs.

I've listened to a TON of YouTube vids to get an idea how they sound and *think* I've narrowed it down to the Mivv Ghibli low - looks ace - or maaaaybe the Scorpion Serket, but not so keen on the looks. (I like the retro thang.) The SC Project looks great, but sounds a bit scratchy on YT - or am I wrong? (I want presence, not offensive decibels.)

The one bit of info that's proved hard to find is how they affect BHP/torque. I've searched on here, but wondered if anyone has opinions/facts on low baritone sound and power.

And before anyone suggests it, I'd love to but I can't afford Akkers - looking up to £400-ish.

Mivv all the way, has the right looks and sound for the bike. It is a quality bit of kit too.

Sadly I had to sell my XSR after only 1k miles due to work changes but am just about to put the exhaust on ebay if you're interested? I can't post the link to my youtube that has a video of it on the move.

Bigsteviet

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 26, 2018

That could be my decision made - if the price is right!

Will PM you...

Bigsteviet

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 26, 2018

Bugger!

Turns out I can't PM you - I don't have enough posts!!!

So, y'ere tiz in public:

Hi Tom,

Yeah - could be interested in the Mivv. How much do you want for it?

I think I found two short clips you posted on YouTube today - is that right? Sounds mega

Few questions:

It hasn't done many miles, but any damage/marks/corrosion?
Does it come complete with all parts to attach to bike?
Does it come with the DB killer?
Got any pics? You can send them to me bigsteviet ATtention yahoo dottttt (co) dottt UKay
Where do you live for pick up, or OK to post?

Cheers,

Steve

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Bigsteviet

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 26, 2018

tombas101 said:
Mivv all the way, has the right looks and sound for the bike. It is a quality bit of kit too.

Sadly I had to sell my XSR after only 1k miles due to work changes but am just about to put the exhaust on ebay if you're interested? I can't post the link to my youtube that has a video of it on the move.

Tell me more...

tombas101

· #15 · Mar 26, 2018

Bigsteviet said:
tombas101 said:

Mivv all the way, has the right looks and sound for the bike. It is a quality bit of kit too.

Sadly I had to sell my XSR after only 1k miles due to work changes but am just about to put the exhaust on ebay if you're interested? I can't post the link to my youtube that has a video of it on the move.

Click to expand...

Tell me more...

Hi Steve

Yes they're the videos I put up today. I'll email you some photos in the morning along with where I'm based price etc.

DB killer is included and I'd recommend leaving it in, with it in its a good volume traffic hears you coming and gets out of the way but not obnoxiously loud, with it out it is verging on a bit too loud for me. Condition is spot on and includes all necessary bits. Takes about 25 mins to change.

Email you in the morning.

Cheers
Tom

tombas101

· #16 · Mar 27, 2018

Just sent you a message :smile2:

Leo

· #17 · Apr 1, 2018

Friday we (TÜV-Engineer + me) meassured my XSR with professional equipment. It emmits 93db @ 4500 1/min. That's 4 db more than stock but within the executives tolerance of +5db.

Bigsteviet

Discussion Starter · #18 · Apr 2, 2018

Erm, thanks Leo!

Not sure what you're talking about, but thanks for joining in

So, to anyone following this thread with bated breath - I bought Tom's MIVV Ghibli (his used offer made my decision for me) and waiting for it to arrive.

I look forward to updating you all soon...

Chris S

· #19 · Apr 4, 2018

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Best Rumbly Bang For Buck? Another thumbs up for the TEC. 260 quid, easy to mount and 2.5kg vs 7kg+ for OE pipe. Liked the idea of chopping out the OE pipe, but don't have the means to do that and TEC looks like a proper, old fashioned pipe.
Being straight through I worried it would be too loud but sounds just right imo, in town and on the road.
What a great sounding machine ;-)
My bike originally had the £1200 Yam/Akra twin pipe, but to me the TEC sounds better (a bit louder) and I prefer a low and short pipe (like the OE), out of the way of luggage.

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Antony Ward

· #20 · Apr 4, 2018

Chris S said:
Best Rumbly Bang For Buck? Another thumbs up for the TEC. 260 quid

I just fitted this exhaust Chris and you're right it does look good. I found it to be quite loud but a really nice sound. Maybe I just have to get used to the extra noise

But for the money, its the business!

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